Re: Elementals Vs. Elementries

["Martin <martincosgrove@...>" <martincosgrove@...>]

Thanks a lot, Rawn. I have not read that far ahead in IIh, as I 
wanted to stay focused on the current step and not confuse myself.

The reason I asked is that I was doing some reading online and the 
terms came up. The author indicated a similarity between an 
elemental and a 'familiar' in other systems. The same page also 
suggested that there are natural elementals and artificial 
elementals which are created, as you say, by the magician for a 
specific purpose. Is the idea of naturally ocurring elementals not 
consistent with Bardon's teachings?

Thanks,

Martin
> 
> Bardon described the difference quite well in the Step Seven 
Physical
> Training section. According to the Ruggeberg edition. page 152-
153:
> 
> "The difference between an *elemental* and an *elementary* 
is in
> that an *elemental* is produced, on the base of a deliberate form 
of
> thoughts, with the help of the magician's imagination and 
willpower, and
> works mainly on the mental plane for the magician's or other 
people's
> benefit. An *elementary*, on the other hand, is far more 
penetrating
> and more subtle, in its effect, because it is being created from 
one or
> several Elements."
> 
> A good way to keep them straight in your mind is to think 
of "elemental"
> as meaning "simple" or "basic/rudimentary".
> 
> 
> An elementary is not intrinsically "bad/negative", nor is an 
elemental
> intrinsically the opposite. This depends upon the mind and will 
of its
> creator-magician.
> 
> In Bardon's system, these are VERY specific terms, however to most 
of
> the rest of the occult world these terms carry multiple meanings. 
In
> folklore, "elementaries" are often seen as negative sprites, but 
these
> are rarely elementaries in the Bardon sense of the term.<
>