Re: Formal Evocation vs. Mental Wandering

["peter_reist" <peter_reist@...>]

Dear Rawn and Parzifal,

Okay, that makes some sense. However, if this is just a matter of 
learning how to flex a certian set of specialized astral and mental 
muscles that are not normally worked, then why bother with all of the 
fancy ritual tools and regalia? Or to use the weightlifting analogy: 
why bother buying a fancy new weight lifting machine when you've got 
a nice set of old barbells that will do the job just as well?

Also, you've got to note that I'm coming at the work of evocation 
from my work with kabbalah...about which Bardon does state that the 
kabbalahist will be able to get perfectly in contact with the spirits 
of all the different spheres via his knowledge of the workings of the 
ability to utter kabbalahistically.

Love and Live well,
Peter Reist

--- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@n...> 
wrote:
> Dear Peter,
> 
> >> What I don't quite understand is how the condensation of a 
specific
> quality of light within the magical triangle into an astral 
density, and
> the evocation of a spirit into that atmosphere furthers that 
progression
> of the subtle mental energies manifesting themselves within 
physicality.
> Especially since, when doing as such, one is seperated from the 
spirit
> that is evoked by both the magical circle and the magical triangle. 
<<
> 
> In addition to Parzifal's comment about exercising muscles that were
> previously unexercised by mental wandering alone, there's also the 
fact
> that an evocation involves conversation *at the mundane level of 
one's
> awareness*. In other words, the conversation between the magician 
and
> the evoked entity occurs within the mundane, material realm. This 
level
> of interaction integrates into the magician's waking consciousness 
much
> more readily and completely than do the experiences obtained during
> mental wandering.
> 
> It's like adding the icing to a cake.
> 
> My best to you,
> :) Rawn Clark
> 03 Aug 2003
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