Re: Formal Evocation vs. Mental Wandering

["magesmail" <magesmail@...>]

Hello.
First of all , let me state that I am NOT trying to offend anyone. Iam
just curious . But wouldn't a hermetic magician who has finished step
8 (which peter seems to have, since he mentions elsewhere that he has
started kabbala work) be able to answer such questions by a process of
intution /mental wandering ? again PLEASE don't be offended . NO
offense meant .
I am enjoying this discussion as much as anyone else here .
Regds, NKKA


--- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "peter_reist" <peter_reist@y...>
wrote:
> Dear Rawn,
> 
> >>>The ceremonial regalia is like training wheels on a bicycle. They 
> serve to support the magician's focus and their will as they learn 
> the Art of evocation. Eventually, they become unnecessary.<<<
> 
> Then, of course, the question becomes: does the initiate who has 
> completed step eight really need such training wheels?
> 
> Also, why does Bardon not talk about the invocation of a spirit into 
> the structure of the mental body? While such a working would be 
> potentially dangerous for the untrained initiate, for the trained 
> magician couldn't it be something more along the lines of what Bardon 
> talked about when he mentioned about pnuma transference at the end of 
> Step 4?
> 
> Love and Live well,
> Peter Reist