Re: mind chatter : what plane ?

["forestofsymbols" <forestofsymbols@...>]

Peter,

Please rest assured that I am not splitting hairs or 
playing "Devil's Advocate" nor is my mind made up, so to speak. I 
think this is an important point because it is fundamental, and may 
color our future development. It is especially important because in 
this field as much as any, the danger of self-delusion is high. 

The principle in most religions seems to be that we are currently 
in a fallen or deviant states. In Christianity/Judaism, this is 
illustrated by the Fall; in Buddhism, by being caught up in illusion. 
I believe it is beginning to realize this in ourselves that brings us 
to the Work to begin with. I remember very clearly the moment that I 
decided not only was the way things were horribly wrong, but that I 
would actually do something about it. When the Israelites first went 
to the Holy Land, it was full of enemies. When Jesus came with new 
wine, he found old wineskins. 

The "order of creation" tells me (I say tells me because I do not 
know enough to clearly say this is objective; it might very well be 
subjective to me) of the way out. In the Qabala, they speak of the 
tzim-tzum- before God could create, He first had to create a space 
for creation. In Genesis, darkness precedes the day. Many alchemists 
speak of nigredo, blackening, as the first step. The Hebrew alphabet 
begins not with a consonant, but an Aleph. Before a word can be 
spoken, there must be silence. With my experiences with Bardon, this 
begins with "observation of thought." I have thought of this for a 
long time, but only recently have I been able to understand it. 
Without the *full* realization of this first step, everything that 
comes after is poisoned, useless, delusional. There are many scribes 
amd Pharisees around, both within and without.

Mental chatter, the monkey, the incessant chattering of the mind 
is no less than one of the enemies of Israel, an illusionist, an idol 
maker. Biblically speaking, idolatry is one of the most dangerous and 
guarded acts of sin. The second commandment prohibits not simply the 
worship of false idols, but the *making* of them. We all know that 
for most people, mental chatter is common. But so was idolatry among 
the Israelites. 

mj