Re: First 3 steps- questions-experience-clarification

["sineadoconnorfan" <sineadoconnorfan@...>]

Yes it was helpful. I remember in the Questions and Answers Bardon 
says that, I think, some type of thoughts don't originate from our 
own minds but are picked out of the Ether.

I guess I should just get into a day dreaming mindset and just 
observe and remember it.

Ardeshir 

--- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "lux xul" <luxxul@h...> wrote:
> Another possiblity is that we ASSUME our understanding 
of 'thought' and of 
> 'ourselves' is significant enough to ascertain OURSELVES and our 
awareness 
> accurately and correctly. Since that 'understanding' is based upon 
a 
> possible set of inherent ignorances (a limited sphere of 
understanding 
> acting from a place of believing it understands itself and does 
not see the 
> fence surrounding and limiting its awareness), it believes it can 
trust its 
> own judgement and grasp something that only EXPERIENCE can 
illuminate. Its a 
> trick of the rational mind to reduce anything to ridiculousness if 
it cannot 
> be grasped by that finite persceptive quality.
> 
> It has been my experience that there is much more to my mind and 
to "my" 
> thought (if it is "mine".. ??) than my personality and 
consciousness grasps. 
> Most growth is only determined as such when looking backwards upon 
the time 
> spent. Most growth happens when one is not paying attention. Else, 
one may 
> impede ones own growth. Consider learning to walk as a child.. did 
we KNOW 
> and understand or simply "do until done,..look back and 
comprehend.."? We 
> TRUSTED in others. Faith.
> 
> My suggestion, temporarily suspend your own opinion concerning 
such 
> things.. rational grasping and understanding is overrated 
sometimes as the 
> be and end all of awareness. Its only your rational mind. Not much 
in IHH is 
> typically "Rational".. So, its a good place to begin suspending 
your 
> opinion. It may not serve u here to hold to your opinion, consider 
it a 
> "guardian" of sorts. Dont let it imprison you behind the doorway 
that it 
> guards. You can invite it back later on if u desire to. It is 
possible.
> 
> Then, TRUST and act in the belief that others who have bumped into 
this same 
> 'wall', passed it the same way. And u will as well.
> 
> Your INTENTION is not necessarily always associated with your 
AWARENESS of 
> that INTENTION. Your INTENTION may be outside of your 
personalities 
> self-awareness. So, it would be outside the toolset (if u will) of 
that 
> persceptive 'vehicle'. Dont trust your opinion, just let it serve 
u, try not 
> to serve it.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> I sincerely hope that helps some.
> Its simply my 'opinion'. ;)
> :T:
> 
> 
> >From: "sineadoconnorfan" <sineadoconnorfan@y...>
> >Reply-To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
> >To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [BardonPraxis] Re: First 3 steps- 
> >questions-experience-clarification
> >Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 03:08:08 -0000
> 
> >
> >I don't see how a thought or train of thought can originate by
> >itself without your own intention and involvement in the thought,