Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: Incorporating Self-defense in Hermetic Practices

[Jonathan Bell <bell_jonathan@...>]

I've had a similar question brewing. After reading Frabato, and in particular 

"While they were being flogged, Quintscher lost his self-control. He uttered a 
Kabbalistic formula, whereupon the torturers were immediately paralyzed 
completely."

I've been wondering whether it is acceptable to use magic for self-defence (not 
that I'm anywhere near being able to do that :) ). Why does this show a loss of 
self-control? Isn't protection from physical harm allowed?

Cheers,

Jon


--- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, Zelator wrote:
> 
> 
> HI!
> 
> I was wondering if any of the practicioners in the group have 
found a way to integrate some form of self-defense training into 
their Hermetic practices. Whether physical or with the use of magic.
> 
> The reason I'm asking is because I live in a 3rd world country 
where crime is very much rampant. And yet I find myself inexplicably 
drawn to Bardons system, even though I do not seem to have made any 
concrete progress for the past 3 years.
> 
> Given that the practice of Hermetics, work, and family life takes 
up a large part of my day. I'd still feel more complete if I found a 
way to incorporate some form of self-defense in my training. For my 
and my loved ones sake, if ever the time came if they were 
threatened by another human being.
> 
> Also, what would be (if there was any) appropriate view and action 
of a Hermetic in practice with regards to incidents where his or his 
loved ones life/welfare is threatened by common criminals. Forgive 
me if this topic was taken up already before, I must have missed it.
> 
> Any or no comments will be appreciated.
> 
> Prometheus











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