Re: Emptiness of Mind

["Geoffrey Sy <geoffrey_sy@...>" <geoffrey_sy@...>]

Hello,

Now, I am confused. :) From what I understand from Bardon's book in 
the Emptiness of Mind, is that I should resist with all my strength 
from thoughts are coming in. I think there is a line where it is 
stated somethign like that. Rawn, did I understand Bardon 
correctly? 

But from Pedro's perspective is I have to let the thoughts just come 
in. Although not attached to it. But seemingly Pedro attach a 
special meaning to the thoughts coming in. as this line:

> Your thoughts will become more "meaningful" as you progress in the 
> study.

>From my perspective, maybe I am doing a similar thing with what Pedro 
is saying but not entirely similar. Whenever a thought arises, I 
just shift my focus out of it by not thinking of it - "not attached 
to it". And later on the thought just disappear because no thinking 
process is being given to it. And of course, another thought will 
come in, and I just do it again. Shifting my focus out. But by doing 
this, I don't care about the thoughts coming in. So I don't think 
even meaningful thoughts will come in. Because I shift out of the 
thoughts everytime.

And just a question too, is there a maximum length to be devoted to 
the Emptiness of Mind exercise everyday (like 30 minutes?)? 

Paul, how do you practise it in the office?

Thanks,
Geoffrey

--- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Pedro A. G. Chuidian Jr. 
<dv1pc@y...>" <dv1pc@y...> wrote:
> --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Geoffrey Sy 
<geoffrey_sy@y...>" 
> 
> Hi Geoffrey, 
> 
> This is unsolicited , with all due respect to all, I'd just like to 
> add a little something. Just let it happen. From what I have 
learned, 
> the idea of learning to "let go" of your thoughts is for us to 
learn 
> not to end up forcing concepts and ideas into the practice to be 
able 
> to get results. That was why he said "to be a silent observer". 
This 
> is a natural tendency of a person in the study - to be expecting 
the 
> results or effects of the practice. At this early stage, the 
student 
> is likely to simulate experiences where later on in the study it 
> might be the cause of a stagnation. I fell into the trap before 
when 
> I was so eager to get results and be able to say something to my 
> guide. 
> 
> Your thoughts will become more "meaningful" as you progress in the 
> study.
> 
> During this stage, just learn to focus and extend the duration of 
> this focus. Breathing properly is of utmost importance.
> 
> I hope I worded it properly that you got my point and that I was 
able 
> to help you in any way.
> 
> 
> <geoffrey_sy@y...> wrote:
> > Thanks Rawn,
> > 
> > 
> > Regarding the one pointedness after I return from emptiness, what 
I 
> > focus upon? should I focus upon the period I went into emptiness 
> in 
> > the sense that the blank there will become meaningful thoughts? 
> Did I get it right?
> >